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i'm chris matthews in washington. tonight, we have to get our heads asround it to understand why things like this happen will take much longer. but let's get to it. we've got michelle franzen on the scene, clint van zandt, psychologist jeff gardeer. we have nbc white house correspondent chris tin welker. we've got larry johnson, the president of the national association of school safety and law enforcement officials and james johnson, baltimore county police chief. first we go for an immediate update to my msnbc colleague, michelle franzen. michelle, thank you for staying with us tonight. >> well, hi, chris, we're here in the newtown area of connecticut, just nearby a couple of miles from sandy hook elementary where the shooting, tragic shooting, took place earlier today. at this hour, hundreds of rez dents are gathering at a nearby catholic church for a vigil. holding a prayer for those who have lost their lives today, those youngest lives, anywhere between kind eergarten and four grade where those student were shot
i'm chris matthews in washington. tonight, we have to get our heads asround it to understand why things like this happen will take much longer. but let's get to it. we've got michelle franzen on the scene, clint van zandt, psychologist jeff gardeer. we have nbc white house correspondent chris tin welker. we've got larry johnson, the president of the national association of school safety and law enforcement officials and james johnson, baltimore county police chief. first we go for an immediate...
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big numbers get thrown around at times like this in washington. as the legendary everett dirksen once said, a billion here a billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money, about you this debate isn't just about the billions here and there. for average families the payroll tax cut that started two years ago is worth around 1000 as year. those families tend to spend that cash because they need it now. republicans say this is one tax cut they hate and the last time it was going to expire, the white house launched a whole campaign about $40 a paycheck. they asked families to send in their stories about what $40 meant to them. well, you know something? $40 a still a lot of cash for the families hit hardest by the great recession. for the wealthy people sitting around the negotiating table in d.c., $40 is just another steak dinner for one. but for many people who voted them into office, it's the cost of groceries for a week of family dinners. let's not forget, they are the ones who still need an economic stimulus, not the families earning more th
big numbers get thrown around at times like this in washington. as the legendary everett dirksen once said, a billion here a billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money, about you this debate isn't just about the billions here and there. for average families the payroll tax cut that started two years ago is worth around 1000 as year. those families tend to spend that cash because they need it now. republicans say this is one tax cut they hate and the last time it was going to expire,...
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steve siebold is the author of the book "sex, politics, and religion ,"and david corn is the washington bureau chief for "mother jones" magazine. mr. siebold, are you comfortable with what the nra put forward today? >> well, absolutely. i mean, this is the only answer. that more guns equals less crime. i mean, if we don't arm the teachers, if we don't have guards at the schools, this is going to happen again. there's no question about it, whether we do this or not. but at least the teachers have a fighting chance. at least they have a fighting chance to save those little kids. >> do i understand your view to be that it would be a requirement for teachers? what if i'm a teacher who doesn't want to carry a firearm? i'm not proficient and i want nothing to do with guns. >> i don't want my kid in your class, then. because my kid is in danger -- >> wow? real? >> i'll send my kid to another school. >> so to a young person today who's pursuing a career in education, they would also need to be trained and comfortedble with the idea of carrying a weapon? >> unfortunately, this is the world we li
steve siebold is the author of the book "sex, politics, and religion ,"and david corn is the washington bureau chief for "mother jones" magazine. mr. siebold, are you comfortable with what the nra put forward today? >> well, absolutely. i mean, this is the only answer. that more guns equals less crime. i mean, if we don't arm the teachers, if we don't have guards at the schools, this is going to happen again. there's no question about it, whether we do this or not. but...
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i'm chris matthews down in washington. let me start tonight with this. is gun violence, mass violence, mass violence against children the price we pay for freedom? is watching and doing nothing what we have to put up with to obey the second amendment? is it? we're supposed to do nothing because the constitution upholds the right to bear arms? well, we have easy access to semiautomatic weapons in this country, semiautomatic rifles. is it a good society that does this, allows it? a country where anyone can get ahold of a rifle that can kill 26 people in ten minutes. is this a good society? is it really a free society when you can't be sure your kids are safe sitting at their school desks? i ask the questions knowing the only way we can end this is with the votes of politicians from deer hunting country, not from the big cities. will they be there? will politicians who fear the gun lobby bear up under the strain of attack against any measure, no matter how small, to curb the power of the gun owners? the question tonight, what should and, most importantly, c
i'm chris matthews down in washington. let me start tonight with this. is gun violence, mass violence, mass violence against children the price we pay for freedom? is watching and doing nothing what we have to put up with to obey the second amendment? is it? we're supposed to do nothing because the constitution upholds the right to bear arms? well, we have easy access to semiautomatic weapons in this country, semiautomatic rifles. is it a good society that does this, allows it? a country where...
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the article today in "the washington post," you know, this is -- >> quickly, we've got to move. let me go to the senator. it seems to me the country, i don't want to involve the city mouse/country mouse stuff, i want to figure out what we have in common here. arkansas, every state, once you get out of the state, once you get past philadelphia into reading, pennsylvania, it's the west. you have to go all the way to seattle to get to something like the east coast again. the heartland of america is gun country. it's pro-gun rights, it's second amendment country. not just for hunting. the right to protect yourself against your government if you have to do it. you represent a state like that. how could a state like arkansas see its way to something like gun safety when it comes to semiautomatics? >> first and foremost, chris, i have to say to the people of connecticut and to those families that have suffered such a tremendous tragedy that we have them in our thoughts and prayers, and i think that's where we start. i think all of us, whether we're in the heartland or on one coast or t
the article today in "the washington post," you know, this is -- >> quickly, we've got to move. let me go to the senator. it seems to me the country, i don't want to involve the city mouse/country mouse stuff, i want to figure out what we have in common here. arkansas, every state, once you get out of the state, once you get past philadelphia into reading, pennsylvania, it's the west. you have to go all the way to seattle to get to something like the east coast again. the...
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at the first couple of prep sessions at the dnc in washington, he was really soft on obama. but it turned out obama is just not the kind of guy you can walk up to and call a failure to his face. i think that holds true with every president in these practice session. obama particularly. >> guess who did? romney did. tell me, check me on this. i had a sense he had never been talked to with such lack of deference for four years, and all of the sudden romney with all this cordiality and phony civility went in there and talked to him like a lesser being. and that drove the president crazy. your thoughts, then, the way he disdained him in that debate. >> will klain and axlerod and plouffe came up to kerry during some of the sessions and said look, you got to start hitting this guy. that's exactly what happened. in nevada, when they got to that disastrous debate prep in nevada, we report this 1:30-minute session was just a shellacking in which kerry got right into obama's face and called him a failure repeatedly. they had expected it would arouse obama, wake him up, but it didn't.
at the first couple of prep sessions at the dnc in washington, he was really soft on obama. but it turned out obama is just not the kind of guy you can walk up to and call a failure to his face. i think that holds true with every president in these practice session. obama particularly. >> guess who did? romney did. tell me, check me on this. i had a sense he had never been talked to with such lack of deference for four years, and all of the sudden romney with all this cordiality and phony...
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." >> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. it's five days until christmas, 12 till new years and the battle lines are drawn. the trenches have been dug. the president has made his promise and intends to keep it. that promise is fairness. he cannot go along with any republican deal that protects the wealthy. he will risk the cliff to keep his promise. if it comes to it, he'll leap right off of it. to do less would be a sign to his enemies a sign that they can beat him. well u they simply tried. the words out he wants former u.s. senator chuck hagel in nebraska for secretary of defense. he's a republly can and a combat veteran of vietnam. the neocons are out to stop him for what he is and what they aren't. he served in war right up front. he opposed unness wars like the ones we've been fighting. fighting and getting ourselves into all of these years. in other words, they opposed the secretary of defense who thinks the man is the commander in chief. there's not an obama vote among them, by the way. u.s. congressman and democrat f
." >> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. it's five days until christmas, 12 till new years and the battle lines are drawn. the trenches have been dug. the president has made his promise and intends to keep it. that promise is fairness. he cannot go along with any republican deal that protects the wealthy. he will risk the cliff to keep his promise. if it comes to it, he'll leap right off of it. to do less would be a sign to his enemies a sign that...
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i'm chris matthews in washington. tonight we have an hour to get on top of this horrific tragedy up in connecticut, to get our heads around it, to understand why this happened, how things like this do happen. of course take much longer. but let's get to it. we've got michelle franzen on the scene in newtown, connecticut, cliff van zandt, former fbi profiler and nbc oonlt. we've got psychologist jeff weiner and psychologist jeff gardere. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, u.s. congresswoman carolyn mccarthy who entered politics after her husband was killed in a shooting on a suburban commuter train. larry johnson the president of the national association of school safety and law enforcement officials. and jamd baldwin, baltimore county police chief. first we go for an immediate update to my msnbc colleague michelle franzen. michelle, thank you for staying with us tonight. >> reporter: well, hi, chris. we're here in the newtown area of connecticut just nearby a couple of miles from sandy hook elementary where
i'm chris matthews in washington. tonight we have an hour to get on top of this horrific tragedy up in connecticut, to get our heads around it, to understand why this happened, how things like this do happen. of course take much longer. but let's get to it. we've got michelle franzen on the scene in newtown, connecticut, cliff van zandt, former fbi profiler and nbc oonlt. we've got psychologist jeff weiner and psychologist jeff gardere. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, u.s....
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and in the first preparations at the dnc in washington, he was really soft on obama. but it turned out obama is just not the kind of guy you can walk up to and call a failure to his face. i think that holds true with every president in these practice sessions. obama particularly. >> guess who did? romney did. >> romney did. >> so check me on this. i have a sense he had never been talked to with such lack of deference for four years. then with all this phony civility talked to him like a lesser being. and that drove the president crazy. your thoughts glen then john on that. the way he disdained him in that debate. >> clain and axelrod and plouffe came up to kerry saying you got to start hitting this guy. that's what happened. and in nevada when they got to that disastrous debate prep in nevada, you know, we report that this one 30-minute session was just a shellacking in which they called him a failure repeatedly. they hoped it to waken him up, but it didn't. >> i will never forget while he was taking notes. for future debates? it drove me crazy. because the president
and in the first preparations at the dnc in washington, he was really soft on obama. but it turned out obama is just not the kind of guy you can walk up to and call a failure to his face. i think that holds true with every president in these practice sessions. obama particularly. >> guess who did? romney did. >> romney did. >> so check me on this. i have a sense he had never been talked to with such lack of deference for four years. then with all this phony civility talked to...
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i'm chris matthews down in washington. let me start with this tonight. did you get the impression during the campaign the press was trying to be even hand snd do you think the people were pushing what we call balance at the expense of the obvious facts? that the day-to-day stories never got across the obvious big fact. that the democrats in this election were like democrats going back to jack kennedy. but the republicans were far to the right of anything we've seen from that party ever. self-deportation, forget the 47%, treat women like they belong in binders, ignore the rights of gay people, crack down on abortion rights even in cases of rape. all those wild statements, all the lingo in the gop platform approved in tampa and not a word. that one of the political parties has gone so far star board that not even ronald reagan could get aboard. and not jeb bush. tonight we're going to nail it. we go to the truth. and why was the truth not dare be reported in the mainstream media. joining me now is joan walsh of salon and david corn of mother jones. thank y
i'm chris matthews down in washington. let me start with this tonight. did you get the impression during the campaign the press was trying to be even hand snd do you think the people were pushing what we call balance at the expense of the obvious facts? that the day-to-day stories never got across the obvious big fact. that the democrats in this election were like democrats going back to jack kennedy. but the republicans were far to the right of anything we've seen from that party ever....
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with me is ron reagan and dana milbank of the "washington post." there's been a new offer, unclear so far, put forward by the gop to the white house regarding the fiscal cliff. at this time nbc cannot confirm any specific details within the offer. it was sent over this afternoon. speaker boehner's spokesman said, quote, we sent the white house a counteroffer that would achieve tax and entitlement reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more american jobs. that's all we know. dana milbank, they say it's good. they said it will solve our problems. they won't say what it is. explain. >> well, look, we're still in the fairly early stage of posturing here, and nobody can strike a deal until they get closer to it, until their feet are to the fire. >> when do you say the fire begins? >> nobody can make any prediction for sure -- >> try. >> they could hammer this out in three hours if they really wanted to. >> that's right. >> but if they don't wait until the very end of december or even go over the cliff -- >> i think it's 21. i'm going to bet
with me is ron reagan and dana milbank of the "washington post." there's been a new offer, unclear so far, put forward by the gop to the white house regarding the fiscal cliff. at this time nbc cannot confirm any specific details within the offer. it was sent over this afternoon. speaker boehner's spokesman said, quote, we sent the white house a counteroffer that would achieve tax and entitlement reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more american jobs. that's all we...
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washington bureau chief for mother jones, both are nbc political analysts. here we go. let's look at this one. let's start with a memorable moment from the spring while we were still in the middle of a tough primary fight that pushed romney to the far right. the question many were asking was could he pivot back to the center in the general election. and then this happened. the number seven quote of the year, let's watch. >> he hit a reset button for the fall campaign, everything changes. it's almost like an etch-a-sketch. you can kind of shake it up and we start all over again. >> impact statement of etch-a-sketch. >> that quote confirmed what everyone suspected of mitt romney. the great thing about a gaffe is the truth. >> yeah, if you don't agree with me now, wait two minutes and you will agree with me. >> okay. here's one that's much more infamous because it really hurt among women. if one comment crystallized the overwhelming trouble the republican party had with women, it was this. take a look at the number 6 category here. here it is. >> first of all, from what i
washington bureau chief for mother jones, both are nbc political analysts. here we go. let's look at this one. let's start with a memorable moment from the spring while we were still in the middle of a tough primary fight that pushed romney to the far right. the question many were asking was could he pivot back to the center in the general election. and then this happened. the number seven quote of the year, let's watch. >> he hit a reset button for the fall campaign, everything changes....
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i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or the power of niagra falls itself? joining me now is politico's jonathan ryan. how about an answer on that one? what's going to protect these guys more? the low expectations people have about them getting anything done or failing to do what they set out to do. they all set the deadline. they have the -- what do you call it. the stakes are clear, the payroll taxes, income taxes, you name it. they put it all together. and if they blow it, who's going to get hur
i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what...
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i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what they can do? what will prove stronger for obama and boehner? the barrels they're riding in or >>> heading over niagra falls in a barrel. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own d
i'm chris matthews in washington. let's start with this. president obama and his republican opponents are about to go over niagra falls in a barrel, but nobody knows for shush how bad it's going to be. will the economy smash on the rocks below? will the stock market plunge a thousand points and keep on dropping? will the world money watchers see the u.s. drowning in its own dysfunction? or will obama and the dead-end opposition it faces be saved by the public's horribly low expectations of what...
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i'm chris mam ewes in washington. let me start tonight with some grave robbing. we're going gown to the dark, cold tomb of the late romney campaign. we're going to excavate the murky truths that were the living heart and mind of the defeated republican effort. going to exhume tonight the guts of the thinking that went on and went so wrong. tonight, we get what we only guessed at, the results of which played out in the numbers of election night. the nasty, anti-immigrant politics, the attitude toward that 47%, the failure to turn out the white male vote, the reason romney picked ryan and the wild prelude to the clipt eastwood performance. tonight on "hardball," the dark arona of what lies now beneath the dirt so we can understand what it looks like, to think and feel your way into a historic disaster. with me are jeff zeleny with "the new york times" and susan milligan who is contributing editor at ""u.s. news & world report."" you laugh, it's not funny. you both attended that harvard institute of policy forum. they just released, we have the audio recordings of t
i'm chris mam ewes in washington. let me start tonight with some grave robbing. we're going gown to the dark, cold tomb of the late romney campaign. we're going to excavate the murky truths that were the living heart and mind of the defeated republican effort. going to exhume tonight the guts of the thinking that went on and went so wrong. tonight, we get what we only guessed at, the results of which played out in the numbers of election night. the nasty, anti-immigrant politics, the attitude...
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>> we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house. >> believe itr not, something may he can plain howard dean's behavior that night. we'll be right back. and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> we learned today it's obama versus clinton again. not in the way you might imagine. michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy ea
>> we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house. >> believe itr not, something may he can plain howard dean's behavior that night. we'll be right back. and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to...
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today's washington post. "richard ar armey walked in with his wife, susan, and and aide holstering a handgun. the gun wielding assistant ses courted freedom works' top two employees off the prem sis while armey suspended several others. the cue lasted all of six days. what does people like this at this main tea party organization for the move itself? msnbc political analyst. he's also rorlted on the freedomworks story. joan walsh is editor at large and an msnbc political analyst. >> you start with what you've got. dick armey, i've known forr. he's really rich and eccentric. if he was rich, you'd say eccentric. the other guy is on here all of the time. who's the good guy? who's the bad guy? in this fight. >> i think they should say i achl. but it's become very bitter. >> but coming in with a gun, an armed guard and telling everybody to get out. >> that story obviously came about because people favorable wanted to get that out and make dick armey look a a complete madman. i spoke to dick armey and a spoke to th
today's washington post. "richard ar armey walked in with his wife, susan, and and aide holstering a handgun. the gun wielding assistant ses courted freedom works' top two employees off the prem sis while armey suspended several others. the cue lasted all of six days. what does people like this at this main tea party organization for the move itself? msnbc political analyst. he's also rorlted on the freedomworks story. joan walsh is editor at large and an msnbc political analyst. >>...
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joining me is "washington post" reporter nia malika harrison. i don't have to call you by your title, which is easier. nia. here we go. watching this thing as of tonight are we looking like we'll get to the cliff if not over it? what would you say right now? end of december how does it look to you watching this thing as an observer? >> right. well, there's certainly a debate inside the white house about whether or not to go over the cliff, whether or not it's actually a politically more advantageous for the white house to actually go over the cliff. maybe that strengthens the president's hand. the same conversation is going on among house republicans about whether or not they would be strengthened if in fact this happens, we go over the cliff. two things happened today, one of think is bernanke came out and started talking about the volatility of the markets. the other thing that happened was boehner essentially came out and seemed to give a non-answer around this question of whether or not he would back just voting on the middle-class tax cuts.
joining me is "washington post" reporter nia malika harrison. i don't have to call you by your title, which is easier. nia. here we go. watching this thing as of tonight are we looking like we'll get to the cliff if not over it? what would you say right now? end of december how does it look to you watching this thing as an observer? >> right. well, there's certainly a debate inside the white house about whether or not to go over the cliff, whether or not it's actually a...
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we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house. yeah! >> it was the scream that defined howard dean's ill-fated candidacy. intense to borderline manic. research conducted for a group called media cultured society shows it was his microphone because it only picked up his remarks for tv not the crowd's boisterous cheering around him. a video camera picked up the crowd noise overpowering him. i think i speak for howard dean when i say so now you tell me. >>> up next, not only does president obama have math on his side, he's got the polls too. he's taking his fiscal cliff case on the road. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] with free package pickup from the u.s. postal service the holidays are easy. visit usps.com. pay, print, and have it picked up for free before december 20h for delivery in time for the holidays. you can even give us special instructions on where to find it. free package pickup. from the u.s. postal service. because it's nice to have an extra pai
we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house. yeah! >> it was the scream that defined howard dean's ill-fated candidacy. intense to borderline manic. research conducted for a group called media cultured society shows it was his microphone because it only picked up his remarks for tv not the crowd's boisterous cheering around him. a video camera picked up the crowd noise overpowering him. i think i...
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we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan, and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! yeah! >> it was the scream that defined howard dean's ill-fated candidacy. intense to borderline manic. research conducted for a group called media cultured society shows it was his microphone because it only picked up his remarks for tv, not the crowd's boisterous cheering around him. a video camera picked up the crowd noise overpowering him. i think i speak for howard dean when i say, so now you tell me. >>> up next, not only does president obama have math on his side, he's got the polls too. he's taking his fiscal cliff case on the road. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%, but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> welcome back to "hardball." today president obama took his fiscal pitch outside the beltwa
we're going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan, and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! yeah! >> it was the scream that defined howard dean's ill-fated candidacy. intense to borderline manic. research conducted for a group called media cultured society shows it was his microphone because it only picked up his remarks for tv, not the crowd's boisterous cheering around him. a video camera picked up the crowd noise overpowering him. i think...
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smith goes to washington." >> is that the craziest thing, that the people would vote against boehner for speaker would vote pelosi into the speakership. >> they wouldn't have to vote for pelosi. they could vote for newt gingrich -- >> but pelosi would get the most votes. >> you need to get 218. they would need to find a nominee who had 218. i don't think boehner would ever lose, but i think it would be a big symbol, a very big kind of vote of dissatisfaction among his republicans. >> chris, you know what we don't need right now is another symbol. how about complete symbol. thank you. wait until you see the headlines the next couple days, but the grown-ups who write front pages are going to go these guys are nuts. thank you, chris, up on the hill and, josh, for enlightening us for the purposes of the viewer. >>> coming up, the man in the middle of the republican circus, john boehner. let's figure out this guy. what is his story? he's the leader of the party that doesn't want to be led by him or anybody. they don't even -- well, it's not even actually a political party. it's a faction
smith goes to washington." >> is that the craziest thing, that the people would vote against boehner for speaker would vote pelosi into the speakership. >> they wouldn't have to vote for pelosi. they could vote for newt gingrich -- >> but pelosi would get the most votes. >> you need to get 218. they would need to find a nominee who had 218. i don't think boehner would ever lose, but i think it would be a big symbol, a very big kind of vote of dissatisfaction among...
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. >> all along, washington will do what it always does. last minute, everyone will come together and stave off disaster. only the last couple of days, has the possibility entered their mind that we won't stave off disaster. when boehner came out later in the day and said we'll reconvene the house on sunday, the market shot up. so if we don't reach a deal by sunday night, you can bet that when the market is opened, the stock market is going to plunge. >> at the end of the year, it's the marking point for how people perform through the year. the expectations are high and they got to stay high. >> that's the real dang. danger. you said the optimistic tone which raises the perception they are going to work this out. and it will make the backlash, the whiplash to make it stronger. >> and does the market find or business community, do they find any of these characters reassuring? >> i think -- i think they want to hear reassuring things from all of the kashlgters. i think anybody in wall street who's smart, anybody doesn't put a lot of faith in
. >> all along, washington will do what it always does. last minute, everyone will come together and stave off disaster. only the last couple of days, has the possibility entered their mind that we won't stave off disaster. when boehner came out later in the day and said we'll reconvene the house on sunday, the market shot up. so if we don't reach a deal by sunday night, you can bet that when the market is opened, the stock market is going to plunge. >> at the end of the year, it's...